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Post by 4given on Mar 5, 2013 21:16:04 GMT -7
As promised, here are pics of my new 17 hmr. It's a Savage 93R17 BTV with a 4.5 - 14 Burris Fulfield II.  It was my birthday present. My wife and my brother pitched in together! ;D I figure this will be the"medium range" whistle pig rifle. Out to 150 yards maybe?   |
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Post by broper on Mar 6, 2013 5:54:40 GMT -7
That'll do. It's always fun to see how far you can hit them. I've made several 100 yd. kills with my 10/22 but lots of 100yd. misses too!
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Post by 72camaro on Mar 6, 2013 12:34:16 GMT -7
With no wind and using the mildot I can get about a 2" grouping and sometimes less and sometimes a bit more at 200yds, but if you sight for 100 it will get you still pretty close at 125yds, I don't remember the drop but it does really drop after that, I think 8" by 200yds. My favorite rifle, and it looks very similar to yours. The biggest thing, and I cannot stress this enough, is to buy a box at a time and try it and if it groups well then buy a bunch more of the same lot number, not necessarily the same brand ammo as all the .17hmr is made by CCI but the batches vary on consistency, even between the same brand and type. Hornady usually was my goto brand but my last box was terrible and the CCI was the best. I've had no good Winchester but others have had their best boxes be Winchester. Batch number, batch number, batch number. And realize every box will have flyers, sometimes around 20%. Typical: 4 good and one flyer at 100yds.     |
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Post by 4given on Mar 6, 2013 13:03:15 GMT -7
72camaro thanks for the advice. I new they were kinda ammo sensitive but I didn't know there was a 20% flyer rate not attributed to the shooter.  I have onle shot about 100 rounds through mine. About 50 Hornady and 50 winchester , all 17gr. The winchester grouped the best but I shot it last and I know it will take a iittle time to get the barrel broken in. I'm gonna get a box of CCI next. |
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Post by 72camaro on Mar 6, 2013 13:03:47 GMT -7
One other thing, I don't know if I can do this but I'm also a member on another forum, 17hmr.net/ and they also have a bunch of good guys over there. |
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Post by cody6308 on Mar 6, 2013 13:08:18 GMT -7
My 17 so far has shot everything I have put through it with pretty accurate results I don't seem to have the fly rate you are talking about. I have the exact same gun just different stock.
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Post by broper on Mar 6, 2013 14:44:10 GMT -7
The flyers are more likely the rifle or shooter. Every rifle shoots different, even same make. You need to try different ammo and see which one shoots best in your rifle. And they can vary from lot to lot.
4given, look closely at your rifle and scope, is the front of the scope touching the barrel? If so, it won't/can't be very accurate as the vibration of the barrel will affect your scope setting. It looks like it migt be touching in the picture but can't tell for sure.
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Post by 4given on Mar 6, 2013 15:23:12 GMT -7
The flyers are more likely the rifle or shooter. Every rifle shoots different, even same make. You need to try different ammo and see which one shoots best in your rifle. And they can vary from lot to lot. 4given, look closely at your rifle and scope, is the front of the scope touching the barrel? If so, it won't/can't be very accurate as the vibration of the barrel will affect your scope setting. It looks like it migt be touching in the picture but can't tell for sure. Nope it is not touching. Just looks like it in the picture. |
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Post by broper on Mar 6, 2013 17:41:08 GMT -7
Ok, hard to tell in the picture.
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Post by 72camaro on Mar 6, 2013 20:46:57 GMT -7
The flyers are more likely the rifle or shooter. Every rifle shoots different, even same make. You need to try different ammo and see which one shoots best in your rifle. And they can vary from lot to lot. 4given, look closely at your rifle and scope, is the front of the scope touching the barrel? If so, it won't/can't be very accurate as the vibration of the barrel will affect your scope setting. It looks like it migt be touching in the picture but can't tell for sure. That hurt. lol Actually on the .17hmr site that was a big contention a new guy mentioned he was putting them into a dime at 100yds right out of the box and one of the old dogs called him on it as the contention is .17hmr ammo is usually not that accurate to stack shots and I tried my best and I came close and many times have shot under an inch grouping but not with a dime to cover all 5. My flyers are anything over 1/2" from center for my .17hmr, and yes, occasionally there is operator error but I have had a lot of good looks and pull of the trigger and it goes off campus sometimes over an inch from center. On that site I don't remember anyone having a dime to cover all 5 holes and I would hope someone there knew what they were doing. But, near consistent groups of 1" at 100yds is usually accurate enough for what we are shooting at with them, Whistle Pigs. |
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Post by broper on Mar 7, 2013 6:12:00 GMT -7
72camaro, didn't mean anything against you personally. I just meant that if all the ammo you tried is doing the same thing then it is probably something besides the ammo.
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Post by 4given on Mar 7, 2013 12:29:55 GMT -7
I am hoping to get out to the range and shoot it somemore this weekend. If I can shoot some decent groups I'll post 'em.
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Post by 72camaro on Mar 7, 2013 13:07:17 GMT -7
72camaro, didn't mean anything against you personally. I just meant that if all the ammo you tried is doing the same thing then it is probably something besides the ammo. Broper, I knew you didn't mean no harm, just funning with you. This is the best box of a batch number I've found so far and I've shot a lot of it. I had some that would only target about 2 to 3 out of 5 in the 1" square, if i was lucky, Winchester and one box of Hornady. But, I've had Hornady almost as good as this CCI. I've yet to find, as well as anyone else on the board, to find one batch with any brand rifle with multiple types of scopes that can shoot the .17hmr and cover a dime shot after shot, not going to happen. The closest anyone came I believe, was to measure and weigh the rounds and check for the concentricity of the bullet and match ammo up. Only one guy did that, the rest off us shoot what we find that comes out of the box. At 17 grain for the bullet, percentage wise, it doesn't take much to be different for weight and shape. I have 4 single boxes of various brand ammo left that I shot trying to find a good batch number, then I bought all I could afford and should have bought more than I could afford. |
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Post by 72camaro on Mar 7, 2013 13:11:47 GMT -7
I am hoping to get out to the range and shoot it somemore this weekend. If I can shoot some decent groups I'll post 'em. 100yds is kind of the benchmark for that round. Look forward to seeing how it groups. Seriously, my favorite gun to shoot. |
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Post by broper on Mar 7, 2013 15:28:26 GMT -7
It just seems to me that something is causing the gun to throw flyers. Guns now days should shoot better. My uncle has a CZ and it will put every shot in just about the same hole. I don't like my guns to shoot flyers, want them all in the same group.
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