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Jan 25, 2015 10:17:10 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Jan 25, 2015 10:17:10 GMT -7
After using to siren to locate yotes, I start with an invitational call or a female invitation call on my Primos Alpha Dogg. The coyotes will answer the call and appear to move closer but never show themselves. This happens on a regular basis at almost every set. I always use concealment, camouflage and minimize my movement. I would appreciate any help or suggestions.
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Jan 25, 2015 17:59:24 GMT -7
Post by broper on Jan 25, 2015 17:59:24 GMT -7
I have never had much luck getting them to come in after they howl. Other guys say they do but not me. I just start out using distress calls. It seems like I've called more in with mouth calls. Seems like female invitation or estrus chirp would work this time of yesr.
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Jan 26, 2015 9:10:24 GMT -7
Post by Timber Butte Outdoors on Jan 26, 2015 9:10:24 GMT -7
bdsusa,
Are you using the siren, then going to the distress call. If that is the case? you need to change that. You should go out in the evening, before your hunt and locate the coyotes with the siren. Mark that spot on your map or GPS, then let the spot rest until the next morning, go back, sneak in, and set up, begin calling.
If you are using the siren before you begin the distress call, the coyote already knows that you are in their territory. Coyotes associate sirens with people, that is why they are only coming so far, sitting down and barking at you!!
If you are going to start your stand with a locator of some sort, I would use a group howl, or locator howl, then if they answer you, go to an female invitational howl (only 2-3 howls) and then into a distress sound, rabbit, then into a pup distress to end the stand.
Then once you see a coyote coming, change to a coaxer call, or a rodent squeak, something with little volume, to bring them the rest of the way into your set-up. Make sure to watch the wind. Keep your eye on the down wind side.
Good Luck, Gary
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Feb 2, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -7
Post by broper on Feb 2, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -7
Do coyotes wear rain gear? Doesn't look like we'll be getting out for a few days around here. I was out last Monday and the roads were a mess. Now this rain ought to make them real nice!
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Feb 6, 2015 11:52:53 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Feb 6, 2015 11:52:53 GMT -7
I spent Wednesday, February 4 in southwest Owyhee County in search of yotes to no avail. It rained hard until after midnight with almost no freeze so the roads where extremely muddy even on the main roads. Set up at daybreak and almost immediately the fog rolled in limiting visibly to less than a hundred yards. Of course, as soon as I walked back to the truck it began to clear. After several other sets the sun began to set and it was time to pack it up and head for home. I did not hear one yote the entire day. I tried both the Alpha Dogg and mouth calls, which went unanswered. I called from the same location from one to two hours, then moved to another location several miles down the road. I am not sure what was going on with the yotes because I had the entire area to myself. Occasionally the weekend finds a few hunters but during the week, it is nothing but solitude. Once this storm blows through, I will be in pursuit again probably mid-week when the blind weatherman forecasts some sunshine. Got a couple new Verminator calls I cannot wait to try out.
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Post by broper on Feb 7, 2015 6:23:48 GMT -7
I don't think coyotes like foggy, rainy weather. We went out in the Owyhees a couple weeks ago. When we got out there it was foggy and we never got an answer. The roads were very muddy and messy, we decided to wait until they dry out a little. I like going during the week too. To many dirt bikes, 3 wheelers, etc. on the weekends. I've hunged the southwest Owyhees quite a bit but lately have been hunting farther east. Seems like there's not quite as many people. Hopefully the weather will dry out soon so we can get back out there.
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Feb 7, 2015 17:30:02 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Feb 7, 2015 17:30:02 GMT -7
My primary stomping ground is between South Mountain and Juniper Mountain. Not a lot of traffic that far south because it is almost a three-hour drive one-way if the roads are good. Looks like this forthcoming week could give us a drying spell especially if we continue to have 20 mph winds for a few days. The Owyhee Front from Marsing to Grandview is hunted hard especially on the weekends which only heightens the coyotes wariness of vehicles.
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Post by broper on Feb 8, 2015 5:51:17 GMT -7
I have been in that area a few times but didn't call there. I was deer hunting. I have seen wolves in that area also. I know what you mean about all te people but we don't do to bad during the week. It seems to me that it's hunted hard all along down hiway 95. It helps to get off the main roads no matter where you are. by the way, I use the Verminator calls quite a bit. I like them, especially the "Twisted Psycho Tweety". It's got kind of a raspy sound that is not familiar to coyotes. I think it makes a difference if you can use something a little different that they're not used to hearing. During one contest we had a coyote sit down at 700 yds. and wouldn't come any closer. I blew on the "Twisted Psycho Tweety" and he jumped up and came to us like a magnet. If you're interested in getting a new call or two contact Gary at Timber Butte Outfitters. He can hook you up with just about any call you want. I have got just about all my calls through him.
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Feb 8, 2015 10:15:33 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Feb 8, 2015 10:15:33 GMT -7
Highway 95 from the Port-of-Entry to the Stateline on both sides of the highway is hunted hard especially during the weekends. The yotes are very wary of vehicles probably because they have been educated a time or two. All the range fires in the area over the last three decades has decimated the sagebrush which of course has an adverse impact on the rodent and rabbit population hence the decline of predators.
Every rancher in the South Mountain and Juniper Mountain area I have talked to over the years have seen wolves in the area. My wife has seen two in the last several years but didn’t have a tag. I don’t leave home without a wolf tag. The IDF&G denies there are wolves in Owyhee County, which I call BS! They told me they were just large coyotes. Either way, the only good wolf is a dead one.
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Feb 8, 2015 19:53:32 GMT -7
Post by broper on Feb 8, 2015 19:53:32 GMT -7
When we were out during the last contest we saw a couple jack rabbits. I hope they come back. I know what the F & G says about wolves in the Owyhees but I have seen them with my own eyes and have friends who have seen them. We talked to a rancher down there and when I told him we had seen three wolves on private property he said " I don't think there's a rancher in this area that would mind if you shot a wolf on their place." I always have a wolf tag in my pocket.
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Feb 15, 2015 8:59:43 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Feb 15, 2015 8:59:43 GMT -7
After another frustrating trip to the Juniper Mountain area yesterday, I received some discouraging but helpful news about the local yotes. It seems the Government hunters are putting a small dent in the yote population. They have been working the Oregon Idaho border with a helicopter. A rancher told me that they were shooting yotes along the North Fork Owyhee River on Friday. I guess this explains why I have not seen or heard as many yotes this year. They told me that even the trappers pulled out. Of course, the lack of snow may also play a small part in the scheme of things. South Mountain has way too much bare ground showing for this time of year. Regardless of the outcome, persistence and patience will prevail.
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Feb 16, 2015 19:22:05 GMT -7
Post by 72camaro on Feb 16, 2015 19:22:05 GMT -7
So, the government is paying people in helicopters to go shoot coyotes but the animal rights activist believe the contests are bad when the contestants do it for free and actually at their expense. Got it.
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Feb 17, 2015 10:01:27 GMT -7
Post by Timber Butte Outdoors on Feb 17, 2015 10:01:27 GMT -7
The Government is not paying the guy flying out of the Boise Airport. The Ranchers are paying this guy to fly their ranches.
The guy is flying 7 days a week, 16 hours a day, shooting coyotes from the air. That puts a huge dent in our coyote calling and hunting. He is laying down a large number of dogs, everyday!
This what I was told!
Gary
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Feb 17, 2015 16:33:38 GMT -7
Post by bdsusa on Feb 17, 2015 16:33:38 GMT -7
I have contacted the IDF&G regarding the helicopter hunting and am awaiting a reply. I have made multiple trips to the area both on weekdays and weekends yet have never seen or heard the helicopter in question. The ranchers have never mentioned paying for any aerial yote hunting service. I know they all carry rifles to shoot every yote they see. I question the validity of private industry paying for a helicopter, pilot, and shooter because the cost is astronomical in such that it is more likely the Government is out there wasting taxpayer money.
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Feb 17, 2015 19:51:46 GMT -7
Post by broper on Feb 17, 2015 19:51:46 GMT -7
I have heard that the F & G shoots coyotes from the air but I don't know that for sure. Good luck on getting an answer from F & G.
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