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Post by Timber Butte Outdoors on Sept 25, 2010 13:26:59 GMT -7
I have carried a shotgun with me everytime I would go calling, I don't always carry it on each and every stand I make, but I do carry it if it is a location that I may need to have a close in weapon. If the brush is thick in the area, like old sagebrush that is thick and tall, or buckbrush, or woodlots, pine forests. If the terrain is in an area that is not wide open, like draws and washes, where I know that the coyotes can and will sneak in close or will charge in, before I can see them coming. That is one of the BIG reasons that I built the Outlaw Sling! So that I can carry both a rifle and shotgun. I carry the shotgun on my back, with the rifle in my hand or on my shoulder, while I carry my shooting sticks, butt pad, etc..... I do own and carry my Foxpro FX3, I carry it on the Outlaw eCaller Sling that I built just for that purpose - to carry your eCaller to the stand without having to carry it in your hand. Just put the sling over your head and across your shoulder, cross body, and you don't have to worry about it being dropped. I shoot 3 inch shells, usually #4 buck. But I have used 3 inch Copper Coated BB's. Both rounds shoot well from my Remington 870 Express Turkey with a 24 inch barrel. What do you shoot? For more info about the Outlaw Sling or the Outlaw eCaller Sling, please take a minute and take a look at them on our website at: www.timberbutteoutdoors.comThank You & Shoot Straight! Gary
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leper
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Post by leper on Oct 13, 2010 19:42:29 GMT -7
Gary, I never used a shotgun while calling. But I have used them for quite a few yrs spot/stalking in on a sleeper Red Fox or coyote.
I prefered 28-36" barreled 12ga 3" mag Full Choke smoothbore shotguns. As they tend to hold very tight patterns way out there. Shot many canines in the 60-80yrd, a few in the 90yrd range. Most I had to quickly hammer 2-3x for the kill shot.
For coyotes I used Remington buffered 3 & 4 Buckshot. For Red Fox, I used 4 Rem buffered Buck sometimes, but mostly copper plated BB.
Some have scoffed on my yardages on other sites. But unless a hunter has used the same. Then they don't know what they are talking about ;D
These same scoffers should note, old goose & predator hunters from yester year. Toted the FC long toms. I'd have to agree for shooting long, they can't be beat. Best part is, no finnicky choke tubes vs shot size to contend with.
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Post by wilford on Jan 20, 2014 10:33:03 GMT -7
Leper
I read your post about the long range scoffers on shotgunning. I have no doubt at all what you are saying on ranges to be true. If you look hard enough on Youth Tube, there is a kid who popped a coyote at 105 yds or so with a shotgun, and it laid that dog down with 1 round. The gun had a long barrel on it, and had a choke that looked like the end of a Tiger Tank 88 with a muzzle brake. That choke looked to be another 3-4" long on top of that long barrel.
Anyway in Alaska I carried my trusty old 870 with a long barrel skeet vented rib, and we carried 10ga. single shot, long barrel goose guns on our backs for those super hi-altitude goose shots. The single shot was lighter then a say a Ithaca 10ga "sky broom" and you usually had time to set your primary weapon down and grab the 10ga. for a good shot or two.
I still have that old 870, its one of the earliest 870's ever made. You ought to see this thing..it is flat worn out. I put thousands of rounds through it in Alaska, and sometimes duck hunting was so good, you had to have an ammo bearer with you. The biggest problem we had was trigger control, or at least I had the problem. That 870 taught me to get back on target for follow up shots, when all my buddies would pop-off their 3 rounds with automatics in over excitement in a second, and the slightly slower action of the pump gave me time to get back on target.
I'm getting old now, so you know what they say, they older you get, the better you were, "back in the day". My eyesight is the biggest problem now-a-days.
Little Will and I are going to bring it along (the 870) on our first hunt, and maybe his 20 ga.
Anyway, not wanting to ramble here, but here's my first question on this forum for the shot-gunners:
Little Will has a Remington 1100 20ga. Auto. The little rascal is pretty darn good with it. The lighter recoil is the reason I put him on it, plus shell availability reasons. In any case, have you, or anyone used a 20ga. on dogs? And if so, what shells did you use with it? and what size shot.
Thanks in advance, Wilford and little Will
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Loren
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Post by Loren on Apr 3, 2014 9:49:57 GMT -7
In my younger days I carried a 20, shot BB with a full choke, did well but shot placement is very critical, and I would let them get as close as I could, which in AZ was not very hard back in the day. just practice, and pattern the gun at different yardages, I am sure you know the drill. Loren
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